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Nokomis06-04-2005, 05:18 PM
Here are my three gripes about dyes and suggestion to fix them
1. Since they are so expensive one should get to preview how dye will affect armor before using it. Heck, have an NPC who will, for a price, SHOW characters how a dye will affect their armor. Double heck, maybe the dye trader could be more useful than just being a price gouging wench.
2. If dye color A plus dye color B create dye color C, and I mix a bottle of dye A and a bottle of dye B, would I not get TWO bottles of dye C? Why do two, three, or four bottles of dye shrink into ONE? It is a major rip off.
3. Why make the color mixing complicated? Is the run-of-the-mill paint color mixing chart most people know about so bad? Dye is more like paint than light! Why do we need user-made programs to predict how dyes will mix! Also, I had a vial of what looked like dark blue dye (it was a mix) and it titnted my ranger's britches very pale blue. Pretty, but STILL. I am at a loss as to why this was made so complicated.
--Nokomis
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Dyeeo06-04-2005, 05:25 PM
1. I totally agree, though dyes are not very expensive. I just wasted a black dye on my pyromancer chest armor. It turned out purple and that was really a large dissapointment.
2. Agree
3. I think mixing should be hard to predict. However I agree that the color on the bottle should be the color it actually shows up as.
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Lucon06-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Excellent suggestions. I don't really plan on dying my **** until I have an outfit I want to keep, though.
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eA-Zaku06-04-2005, 06:11 PM
I disagree. Dying should be a LUXURY, or perhaps something to do in your spare time. Players should NOT be able to afford to experiment and throw away dyes on a whim, UNTIL they can afford it, and UNTIL they have finished the important things (like Ascension)
By the time you truly "deserve" to dye, or lose/waste dye, then it should not be a problem financially. Dye does not even help you statistically so I don't see the problem. This is IMO, and I agree that the Dye Trader is pretty useless, as well as dyes being expensive (especially when mixing) But I keep in mind that dying is useless as well as a luxury.
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Stev006-04-2005, 06:33 PM
There should be a utility offered to experiment with colors ... I agree.
The price of dyes are too incredible to just throw away coin on a whim.
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Slade xTekno06-04-2005, 06:40 PM
Here are my three gripes about dyes and suggestion to fix them
1. Since they are so expensive one should get to preview how dye will affect armor before using it. Heck, have an NPC who will, for a price, SHOW characters how a dye will affect their armor. Double heck, maybe the dye trader could be more useful than just being a price gouging wench.
2. If dye color A plus dye color B create dye color C, and I mix a bottle of dye A and a bottle of dye B, would I not get TWO bottles of dye C? Why do two, three, or four bottles of dye shrink into ONE? It is a major rip off.
3. Why make the color mixing complicated? Is the run-of-the-mill paint color mixing chart most people know about so bad? Dye is more like paint than light! Why do we need user-made programs to predict how dyes will mix! Also, I had a vial of what looked like dark blue dye (it was a mix) and it titnted my ranger's britches very pale blue. Pretty, but STILL. I am at a loss as to why this was made so complicated.
--Nokomis
I honestly can't answer your first two with anything else than "Test it first on a PvP character." [if you can] I do agree that mixing two dyes should wield two dyes.
However, the answer to the third question is rather simple - mixing colors in Guild Wars is done by mixing light, not pigment. It seems like you already knew this, so ponder it further by realizing that lightning plays a much more important role in current games than it did in the past.
I don't know how far in the game you are, but money really isn't an issue later on. Popping a couple hundred for a vial of dye becomes something so trivial you end up just buying it at the trader.
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Mountain Man06-04-2005, 06:41 PM
Dye preview: Absolutely! The results are too unpredictable, and dye is too expensive for casual experimenting.
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Apophis Jaan06-04-2005, 07:09 PM
I disagree. Dying should be a LUXURY, or perhaps something to do in your spare time. Players should NOT be able to afford to experiment and throw away dyes on a whim, UNTIL they can afford it, and UNTIL they have finished the important things (like Ascension)
By the time you truly "deserve" to dye, or lose/waste dye, then it should not be a problem financially. Dye does not even help you statistically so I don't see the problem. This is IMO, and I agree that the Dye Trader is pretty useless, as well as dyes being expensive (especially when mixing) But I keep in mind that dying is useless as well as a luxury.
Deserve dye? It's dye people not the congressional medal of honor! How would you like it you went to a store to buy a shirt, and they only had blue on display then when you asked for a green they told you "No you can't have green, you don't deserve it!". Deserve dye? Wtf? It's just a color, I'd rather everyone have easy access to dyes then have a bunch of people running around in identical armor. Idividuality is a right, not a previlage!
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Axelia06-04-2005, 07:11 PM
Does a merchant mix dyes you have obtained? Sorry if this sounds so NOOB but I really haven't seen a trader that mixes them. I did however buy a dye remover thinking I would get my dye back. :)
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Gs-Cyan Bloodbane06-04-2005, 08:05 PM
I love mixing dyes and change my armor color at whim at times. and i'm not talking just like red or blue. I'm talking the putrid green you get from green and red mixed. or the pinkish purple from yellow and purple. Or the golden color of orange and yellow. oh or the crisp color of purple and red on a necro armor. now thats striking armor.
a lot of the mixes i have seen are usually bolder and more noticable then the run of the mil colors. then again i like teh characters that mix and match armor pieces to make a suit instead of just playing with all one style.
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KingKryton06-05-2005, 04:02 AM
i tried to dye my magmas shield silver to go with the rest of my silver dyed gear. hoping that the orange mouth would chnage to silver. well guess what. i was glad to see the icon for it in my inventory did what i hoped but to find that it didnt dye the actual thing :S Same happened when i spend 3500 on black dye to turn my eternal shield black but its didnt do squat.
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Swarnt Brightstar06-05-2005, 04:26 AM
I was always curious about that... You can dye weapons and shields, but it does, guesss what, nothing... I dyed a bow I had silver (keep in mind I'm trying to get a guild hall) and It didnt do squatdidleydoo!
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Zexion06-05-2005, 04:38 AM
One thing I don't like is how necro scars become azure when dyed purple.
To make them purple, you have to dye them yellow.
That is VERY wierd, and should be fixed.
_Zexion
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Cymmina06-05-2005, 04:58 AM
Is the run-of-the-mill paint color mixing chart most people know about so bad? Dye is more like paint than light!
Yes, but your monitor is based off of blending light, not pigment. It would be far easier to use an existing light blending algorithm than try and develop a pigment one for the sake of dyes (which could end up being exceptionally complex once you get past tier 2 dyes). I'm not saying I agree with Anet's choice, I'm just explaining the most likely reason they did it that way.
I do wish there was a way to preview armors with dyes. I've tried mixing colors, but every single dye I try to apply to my 15k rogue's armor looks like absolute crap. Come on Anet, how about making a stand alone app that can use GWs art files and dye algorithm so we can see the results?
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Swarnt Brightstar06-05-2005, 05:03 AM
We all wish...
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Apophis Jaan06-05-2005, 07:46 AM
Yes, but your monitor is based off of blending light, not pigment. It would be far easier to use an existing light blending algorithm than try and develop a pigment one for the sake of dyes (which could end up being exceptionally complex once you get past tier 2 dyes). I'm not saying I agree with Anet's choice, I'm just explaining the most likely reason they did it that way.
I do wish there was a way to preview armors with dyes. I've tried mixing colors, but every single dye I try to apply to my 15k rogue's armor looks like absolute crap. Come on Anet, how about making a stand alone app that can use GWs art files and dye algorithm so we can see the results?
That's not at all why Anet did it, being a programmer I can tell you that it's not that hard to create a paint color mix preview app (I made one for school). All you do is assign each color a number say blue is 1 and yellow is 2 for example, then when a personm puts the two together you get green which is 3 (ok its a little more complex then that, but Im not about to paste in java code here). Your monitor may be based off blending light, but to a program your still just telling it to display a color. As long as you have the art for said color it's just as easy, just because a monitor works of light blending doesnt mean they have built in algorithms for it. When you get down to it in either case (light blending for colors, or pigment blending for colors) your still telling the computer "color surface a color b" and since your average monitor can display a couple million colors either way works well.
So really Arenanet did color mixing the way they did, because they WANTED to.
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Magus06-05-2005, 08:16 AM
I really have divided thoughts on this one. On one hand, it would be great if you could preview your dyes (especially since the colors are different for different armors and professions), but I also agree with eA-Zaku that dye-ing should be a luxury, although I'm leaning more towards having some way of being able to preview appearances.
I think this should apply with the 15K ascension armor too. Before I realized that they were going to be changed, I spent 15 platinum on the ascension aeromancer robes only to see that it looked exactly the same as the normal aeromancer robes (this was before I knew that the graphics were being worked on) I had to sell it and waste 15K (along with the extra money put into the materials) and get a different armor. But even with this situation aside, it would be nice to be able to preview the ascension armor, so that we know what we're getting for our money.
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Apophis Jaan06-05-2005, 08:47 AM
I've seen this often, why do you people always think customization should be a luxury? I really don't get it, I'm all for symbols of accomplishment and prestige. But in the form of really good armor (ascension armor for example, after the new art) or a really rare unique weapon. Simple customization like color should be easily attainable by all. I'd rather see fifty people dyed funky colors then see fifty people who look nigh identical. Even though dyes are a luxury now, I still dont see a guy dyed black and think "he must be good" I see "oh cool he's all black". Just like I don't assume someone sees my character dyed all silver and thinks "she must be good" I assume they see me and think "ooh shiny!".
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Phoenix Denfer06-05-2005, 09:16 AM
I agree, dyes were just to common in pre-searing to be thought of as anything but a simple means to further customize your character. Perhaps the developers thought..oh..post searing.. everything should be more scarce, but its not. Just the dyes.
It is ludicrous to have dyes running as high as 300 gold or more.. (not even going to get started about black.) I also agree, two dyes mixed together should give you two vials of that mixed color. Preferably with some unique graphic to indicate they are mixed.
We are very limited in customization. Heavens I landed in a spot right next to a ranger that was my exact same height, armor, face and hair style. Too boot her guild cape was nearly identical to mine. I had a hard time seeing who was me and who was this other ranger. LOL
My request to Arena.net.. stop being selfish with the dye and let us play with it. If armor is going to be 15K a piece at the end of this game, I want time to mix and practice colors earlier on lower level pieces before trying to apply it to my final armor. Its like a break in the constant kill and be killed environment. A chance to role play a bit. I also would not like to wait until I'm 80% complete with the game to have enough gold to buy my armor and the dye I need because for some silly reason the game knows I want blue, so all the drops I get are green. :D
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Lek Stacy06-05-2005, 09:18 AM
One thing I don't like is how necro scars become azure when dyed purple.
To make them purple, you have to dye them yellow.
That is VERY wierd, and should be fixed.
_Zexion
I depends on your necros skin colour what colour of scars your going to get.
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Rhunex06-05-2005, 11:43 PM
I really don't see what's wrong with the pricing. Sure, black dye gets up there but that's because there's so little of it in the game. And there's so little of it in the game because people find it, and use it on their own armor because black makes everything look wicked awesome.
Also, if you know how the colors will not mix(for example, you think they should mix like paint) then you should be able to predict what kind of system they are using so you can predict which colors will be the output of what you put in. For example, their system of mixing is so arbitrary that if you mix red and blue you get yellow. It's fairly easy to predict what comes out, and silver acts as a white when mixing with other colors, which is how you get lighter tints.
I think you should only get 1 bottle. Because when mixing two colors together(with liquids) often times it's not a 50/50 mix(or your preferred 100/100 mix) of what you start out with, and sometimes it ends up being something like 33/55. Plus, to get better colors like pink(Red/Silver) you have to sacrifice some of your gold. I think one of the reasons dye is so expensive, is because the designers planned on people who have more gold, have better looking armor. Sure, you can dye it regular blue, but people will stand in awe if they know you mixed your dyes for each piece of your armor, because it costs more. Kind of like getting the 15k sets instead of 1.5k sets.
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PieXags06-06-2005, 12:52 AM
Yeah, we need better dye thingies. To be able to see how they'd turn out would be great, better mixing systems would be great.
Why?
Because dyes are about the only way someone can add something...unique to his or her character, and even that isn't unique really.
Why the HELL should it be a privelage to have BLUE armor instead of YELLOW armor? Screw that, give me blue armor instead of yellow armor so I can look different than the group of 5 over by the henchmen.
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Rhunex06-06-2005, 12:55 AM
Mwa ha ha ha ha...I have pink armor...which no one else has to this date(that I have seen). Pink armor is teh rules...Red+Silver mix for each piece(helmet excluded, this is my elementalist I'm talking about which you can't dye the helmet on).
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Gs-Cyan Bloodbane06-06-2005, 01:58 AM
Rhunex. My warrior has been sporting pink armor for a long time. there is a better pink then red silver anyway. Try mixing Purple and yellow. Opposite colors give you some really nice shades in this game. Green/red a putrid green, Yellow/Purple a nice pink and orange and blue is a shade i can't remember atm too tired but it was closer to orange. think it was sorta copperish golden sorta color
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Morat06-06-2005, 02:50 AM
I have a Ranger's fur vest. I tried dying it red. Now I have an extremely camp looking PINK furry vest. It was so awful I kept it.
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Dirkiess06-06-2005, 03:33 AM
Anyone ever thought that it could actually be there monitors that are causing certain colours they want to look like something different.
Changing the colour ranges on monitors can have an impact on what you see on screen and not all monitors show the colours in the same way.
I have an LCD and CRT and both of high quality, however, the LCD shows me a sharper clearer picture than my CRT and needs less adjustment with the colours shown and I can rarely get both screen colours to look exactly the same. The reason i say this, I have a duel screen setup and I try my best to get as close as possible so it doesn't look too odd.
With regards to only getting one dye when using two, why not have it that you get 1 dye that can be used twice. The reason being, you are pouring one dye into another bottle. In reality, would give you twice the liquid. :)
And my opinion on the luxury aspect. Cobblers. It's a customisation feature and I'm all for people being able to customise there armor a lot easier than they do now, and it has no impact on overall performance. The only thing i can see it doing, is making armor harder to determine what sort of Defences they have. In the case of Ele armor, they have fire, air etc defense and the armors look different.
If the colours were similar but you had several pieces of different armor, it would be hard to see what type of defenses you had. :)
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Nokomis06-06-2005, 07:16 AM
Yes, but your monitor is based off of blending light, not pigment. It would be far easier to use an existing light blending algorithm than try and develop a pigment one for the sake of dyes (which could end up being exceptionally complex once you get past tier 2 dyes). I'm not saying I agree with Anet's choice, I'm just explaining the most likely reason they did it that way.
I'm no programmer but there is NO way they made the dye mixing the way they did because of how the monitor works. There are lots of programs where colors mix like paint, not light, and I don't think they had to hire a genius or spend millions to make those programs work. No way was this a choice based on some hardware/software limitation.
Admit it A-net: Some game design guy thought he was being clever or cute in making the dyes hard to mix. The VP of dye mixing at A-net had WAAAY too much Mountain Dew from the 7-11 across the street and came up with a brilliant idea: make dye and dying things really counter-intuitive and frustrating!
As they say in the Guinness commercials: BRILLIANT!!
If only he'd had a girlfriend who could have taken away his 180 ounce neon yellow soft drink and explained to him that many people like their characters to be unique looking and have neat-o armor and clothing. And they don't WANT to sit and play with dyes and armor and waste time and effort to find out that after much careful dye hoarding and mixing, their armor barely takes dye anyhow, and the part that DOES change color changes into an UGLY color. Ugh-ly.
But he had no girlfriend. Just his action figures super-glued to his monitor. So now we are stuck with silly, physics-defying dye. :-(
--Nokomis
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Winterclaw06-06-2005, 07:34 AM
I'd like to see a preveiw as well. I had some silver and yellow sitting in my vault so I mixed it trying to get a goldish color and put it on my ascalon helm. I think only a little bit of the helm changed color. As an experiment I put orange on my chest peice and only the spiked should pad showed a slight change. I wanted to dye my elementalists armor blue and the only thing that changed was the trim. Frankly, I'm quite dissapointed with how little some armors will be dyed compaired so others (ranger armor, heubruk, etc). If armor has two color parts, I say let us dye both.
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Galatea06-06-2005, 07:47 AM
1. Yeah, I'd like to be able to preview dyes. I used a chart from these forums to create "pink" and it turned out much darker than I wanted. I tried adding silver, and it turned out.. exactly the same.
The Dye Trader should offer some sort of preview option.. similar to the designing of the guild capes, in that you can see it modeled on your character without having to purchase it.
Or, for a small fee, you can purchase from the dye trader a "Sampler Dye". This dye would "expire" in the bottle (so that people wouldn't buy a black sampler dye for 50 gold and sell it as black dye for 3000 gold) as well as expire on the armor (after a time limit of maybe 20 minutes, the color would disappear).
2. Yeah, that doesn't make sense lol -- why do 2, 3, or 4 dyes always equal one?
3. I agree, I don't like that the color in my bottle is never what shows up on my armor.
May I add a new suggestion to this thread: the color white? I have tried mixing colors many times to create a lighter shade of pink for my character. Silver has not decreased the shade at all, or made my armor any shinier. :\
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Laurelin Goldtree06-06-2005, 08:52 AM
Mwa ha ha ha ha...I have pink armor...which no one else has to this date(that I have seen).
I dyed my Warrior Pink. I thought a nice, frilly color would look great when she was swinging around her massive axe of death.
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Winterclaw06-06-2005, 10:43 AM
May I add a new suggestion to this thread: the color white? I have tried mixing colors many times to create a lighter shade of pink for my character. Silver has not decreased the shade at all, or made my armor any shinier. :\
I heartily agree with that one.
Here's another idea - a dye mixer NPC. He's sort of like an advanced dye trader but instead of buying one dye at a time and then mixing them, you give him the color and he'll mix them for you and charge you depending on how many you want and the types of dyes used to make the mix.
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Evan The Cursed06-06-2005, 10:47 AM
Agreed with original poster.
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Hanok Odbrook06-25-2005, 09:04 AM
The simplist solution to this is just for Arena.net to create a chart in the on-line manual listing the complete mix results - red + blue = purple; red + silver = pink; all colors except silver mixed = black, etc. That way, we all would know exactly what colors are available and how to get them. It would also be nice to be able to sell mixed colors to the trader which would then be added to her inventory.
One of the biggest gripes I have come across, though, is the fact that a lot of armor and weapons don't really show any significant change when dyed. Just going through a PvP only character shows that some pieces only have a small highlight of the color you may want. A major change needs to be done here so that not only will more of the colors show up on the armor, but an option to dye the various parts of the armor different colors be available as well.
Using the Warrior Ringmail Leggings from Pre-Sear as an example, it would be great to be able to dye the entire leather part one color, then dye the chainmail part another color - this would allow for some really wacky Colin Baker Doctor Who type of outfits!!
Hanok Odbrook
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johnnylange06-25-2005, 09:12 AM
Dye previewing would be nice. Although I dyed my armor green and it's looks good. Note: untill you use dye remover, the color will stay with every armor you equip new or old.
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Quantum_Cats06-25-2005, 09:48 AM
Changing the pigment blending to light blending is your video card's job.
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dargon06-25-2005, 11:01 AM
You do realize that a chart would be near impossible as there are over 2000 different dye combinations. It could be a little tough for you to pick out the exact color you want ;)
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Caelus The Fallen06-25-2005, 03:26 PM
Does it make a difference to the colour if you use Dye Remover on an item first?
For example, dying the purple trim of an Elementalist's robe with Red; compared to using Dye Remover on said robe, then dying it Red.
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Angryhob0z06-25-2005, 05:56 PM
I disagree. Dying should be a LUXURY, or perhaps something to do in your spare time. Players should NOT be able to afford to experiment and throw away dyes on a whim, UNTIL they can afford it, and UNTIL they have finished the important things (like Ascension)
By the time you truly "deserve" to dye, or lose/waste dye, then it should not be a problem financially. Dye does not even help you statistically so I don't see the problem. This is IMO, and I agree that the Dye Trader is pretty useless, as well as dyes being expensive (especially when mixing) But I keep in mind that dying is useless as well as a luxury.
ive already ascended on one character, and i just got to kryta on another... and i spent all of my money on armor in droknars forge... ascension is just a point in the game, just because youve reached that point doesnt typically mean you have alot of money...
FYI, i had over 21 plat before i bought the armor, and max damage weapon of choice. just over 1 plat after i bought both.
I, along with many other people have fallen victim to the nerfing of the game. i bought the game jut under a month ago... so by the time i had a character who could start to make money easily enough, everything had been farmed/nerfed so much, i havent even unlocked a single superior rune, let alone all of the minors or majors yet.
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Advocate Of Hell06-25-2005, 06:57 PM
I agree with your arguments 2 and 3, though i do not agree with the color on armour preview. Lets keep this game a bit dificult, your asking for an easy way out.
AoH
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Indigo06-25-2005, 07:54 PM
I was always curious about that... You can dye weapons and shields, but it does, guesss what, nothing... I dyed a bow I had silver (keep in mind I'm trying to get a guild hall) and It didnt do squatdidleydoo!
That's not exactly true... I died a hammer of mine and not only did the Ram portion "tint" purple, but the grip turned purple as well... I was so enthused that I dyed a sheild green only to find that it didn't do anything. :(
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spikydude06-25-2005, 08:01 PM
well what they probably should do is give us all the colors to dye, and get rid of dye mixing all together. This will save some grief.
Although maybe someone at Anet thought that dye mixing was a fun idea but didnt anticipate how expensive dyes would get in this game.
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Olfin Bedwere06-25-2005, 10:21 PM
A bit off topic but I`d like to dye my pre-ordered item. My Targe shield stays red no matter what. It shows green in the slot but red on my Hero and when equiped. Anyone else try to dye thier pre-orders?
On topic, I agree with the 1+1=2 factor.
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Shifty Geezer06-26-2005, 01:45 AM
As a guild member who created a guild etc. just to play with friends, we were looking to dyes to provide a 'uniform' to go with our cloaks. It was very disappointing to see applying a dye just colours a small part of my gear. As a uniform can't really be created, dye's virtually worthless for me.
I agree with OP's views on more dye, better mixing etc. I would like to add give the dye a greater effect - the whole armour and not just a few sparse trimmings, and make a uniform colour scheme something attainable and obvious. Gives an extra aspect to work towards.
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Tactical-Dillusions06-26-2005, 01:56 AM
I applied red dye to an eternal shield and nothing happened. :eek:
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DrSLUGFly06-26-2005, 07:58 AM
I fully support the OP and I want to emphasize the following points-
1 - Blue dye + Yellow dye = Green dye (and two bottles of it). It DOES NOT = whatever the hell subtractive color would give us. Subtractive color is based on light not mixing liquids together. with dye's we should be using additive color mixing, there is absolutely no reason not to.
2 - 1 yellow + 1 blue = 2 green... very good point and I'm surprised that this is the first time I've seen it (or thought about it)
3 - preview is important. Yellow dye over blue armor will turn out green (see # 1) and we may not know what parts of the armor are dyable. I'd like to be able to see first what it's going to look like.
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Drago Solaris06-26-2005, 08:38 AM
k you might all totaly hate this idea but wat about adding scrap cloth ud get scrap cloth for each armer and when used with a dye it changes to the colour that the armer would if mixed with the same dye but it doesnt actualy use the dye the cloth should be 1 use only tho
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philwozz03-26-2006, 01:02 PM
o my goodness you need to have dye!! it makes you look wicked cool
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Arkantos03-26-2006, 01:15 PM
do you know how hard it would be to find dye at the dye trader if they sold EVERY dye? honestly, the list would be endless.
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Loviatar03-26-2006, 01:31 PM
o my goodness you need to have dye!! it makes you look wicked cool
:p YOU ARE NOW THREAD NECROMANCER OF A TOTALLY USELESS THREAD FOR THE YEAR SO FAR WITH A 9 MONTH REVIVE:eek:
useless thread and a pointless post FTL
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shardfenix03-27-2006, 03:03 AM
Someone will make a dye mixing program someday.
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Rayea03-27-2006, 09:28 AM
well i agree with Hanok ^^
(but have wanted this since i got my first dye bottle, then went and looked at the various shades that were available at the GuildCape bloke)
we should realy only get basic dyes (red thru purple) as drops and the rest of the colors should be from going to the DyeMerchant To get your Armour Dyed Professionaly.
getting your Armour dyed Professionaly
you talk to the DyeMaster.
he has the same interface as the GuildEmblemer for the capes
he has a box that shows the item you want dyed
he also has a button that allows yoou to add *silver* to make stuff metalic looking
so..i pop to him the day i make it from pre sear...
i still have my basic pre-sear collectors armour *ac7*
i choose to dye the top...i click the top, and it appears in the box. then i clock the color i want from the large square of them on the right..i pick magenta....i like it, but i prefer a lighter shade, so i slide the slider button below the box towards the *lighter* end, till i get a magenta style light-pink i like.
i click the request dye job quote button, and it tells me....50 gold to dye this top, this shade...
hm....i click ok....
it asks me...Are you SURE you wnat to dye this item, this shade?
i click ok again, my top is dyed my light magenta pink...
however, i now choose to make the skirt part (im using the elementalist collectors pre-sear, by the way) exactly the same shade....i dont need to do anything to the dye chart, just click the skirt part, and it comes up in the dyeing item box...
but i want something different....so i tick the *silver* box, and my skirt becomes a light magenta pink shiny metalic looking dyed one..
again, i click the request dye job quote button, but because i have added silver dye....oh-oooh....it says....Dye cost for this item...500 gold:eek:
ok, im skint if i do it, so i unchek the silver box and it goes back to 50 *whew*
(only the initial FIRST dye job would be one color...the seccond would *hopefully* allow me to dye the silver part of my ele outfits, so that its not *just* the colored trim that is now light-magenta pink ^^ so i would get it dyed normal magenta, or even non silverd white.....and it would cost another 50 gold per dye of a simple color like that....)
only silver dyeing to make items metalic would add price to the dye cost
mind you.....i manage *its a mirracle! ooh* to get accended with the elementalist, and i now have lots of cash and a full set of droks 15k a peice stuff now...
no matter where i am, or what town i go to, the dyemaster still charges me the same for each piece of armour in a set...
so, i want to dye my 15k pyro armour...
(assuming its AC60 like the stuff we saw in the GW:F preeview)
ooh, moma, the price to dye the normal parts of the top that usually dye now has skyrocketed :eek:
instead of costing a mere 50gp to do it, its costing more like 5k...wow...
and if i added silver, it might even go up to a whoppping 25k...(i dont think its fair to charge 50k, the same style as the 50gp to 500gp cost fro lower armours...)
so, depending on the armour, it costs more or less....
now if yu want to dye your armour the old way when its expensive, no one would stop you lol...
see, the way i see it, most of the top 15k stuff is mainly for showing off or for its properties....you dont *need* an expensive set to play inthe lower areas, nor to wear in the non town maps when your wandering about alone, with henches or with guildies...unless your trying to impress...
so...simply dye your *utillity* armour (the suff you generaly play with) your fave way, and leave the expensive stuff till you ether have enough gold, or cant stand it anymore hehe.
i would also sugest that you could use this dyemaster to dye wepons, off hand items ect....
and even the stuff that is currently not dyeable...like those eternal shiled thingies
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Naqser03-27-2006, 09:47 PM
I have to disagree with the cheaper dye vials, with cheaper dyes everyone would run around like crazy dying and give it time it will get boring, I look forward to the day when I will dye something next, I know that I got that realy expensive dye in my stash and noone will take it from me, it's only mine to use. Like waiting in a line the first time you are about to take a ride in a new rollercoaster, you wait and you wait, then finally you take your seat and your of, then when the ride is done you have a memory for life, when you ride it again it isn't as fun as the first one because it's an old experience, like the dyes, you know what the outcome will be if you use it on a similar armor, they build a new one and you do the same procedure, wait, ride and memory. People look forward to dying their armor, or they should atleast. So if if the prices would have been ridiculously high and vey rare drops people would be happy as hell to get one while lowering the prices and making more usual drops for dyes makes people go "not another dye, nobody wants to buy them because they allready got them, they are worthless in shops and I allready went through the whole rainbow with my armor"
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Rayea03-28-2006, 03:30 AM
worthless? oh, you mean red to purple, which they dont buy for more that about 100gp right?
sheesh.....if its THAT worthless, just sell them to the dye trader like anything else.....if i get stuff i dont want, like runes, i SELL them, so that, although I dont want them, theres a slim chance the theres SOMEONE out there that does.....
see, i collect dyes so that once i eventually get a GOOD set of armour, i can dye it the shade want.....i sometimes buy simple blue, and im damn glad that its cheap....so black and silver are way overpriced....i do like silver, but black dosent suit my necro for some reason (i am the only one i think it doesnt suit, all the rest i see seem to like it, well the males at least)
besides, some of us are not sugesting all dyes become cheap, were sugesting that we can ether..
preview what a dye will look like *on a specific piece of our armour*
to be able to get more than one dye per vial when we mix a dye
to have a store that will allow *custom* dye jobs that do not create dyes themselves, just dye the item itself and be done with it
to be able to dye more than just the original parts of the armour, so as to make them MORE individual
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